Canoe Ponderings by Red Rock Wilderness Store

Duluth-style packs vs. others

A. I have a question about canoe packs.  On my last boundary waters trip I used my gregory backpacking pack.  I used the large heavy duty (.06 mm) plastic pack to keep the contents dry.  It seemed to work okay.

I've used the Knupac and found it pretty good for carrying the canoe and a pack at the same time, but the metal frame doesn't fit across a 36 inch wide canoe (when loaded horizontal to the canoe).

I've been looking at some of the good canoe packs and food barrels-harnesses.  Do most people double portage?  Can you use the trumpline and carry the canoe at the same time? 

I guess what I'm asking for is some advise on choosing a canoe pack.  Can you direct me to any articles?  So far all I've found are sales 'brochures'.

 

Q.  The best overall pack for canoes is a Duluth-style pack.  No frame & nothing to interfere with quickly thowing it on your shoulders and flipping the canoe up and taking off over the portage.  That's what they were designed to do.  ALL of that other stuff is gimmicky or specialized beyond usefulness for the average guy.   Frame packs are a pain in a canoe because they just don't fit, period.  Many people use them because they are easy to carry with the transfer of weight to one's hips.  Sure, that works extremely well for backpacking and walking for 8 hours with a load on one's back, but they don't make a whole lot of sense in a canoe where they stick out  at inconvenient angles and waste cargo space.   Duluth packs were made to mush into a cargo hold of a canoe, be quick to fling over one's shoulder, (two shoulders if it's a long portage) and away you go.  This style was developed over 200 years ago by those little french guys in the fur trade who carried a lot more weight than the average guy today. It is still the predominant style used.   ALL other packs are variants of this pack because there are definitely better ways to carry stuff for different applications and areas (ie, frame packs for backpacking and hauling odd shaped gear for great distances, mountains, etc.)

The Knupack was an item that we retailed briefly after the owner of the company kept coming over and bugging us and we finally just gave in.  It's an OK system (maybe)  for someone with a back problem, but it's not too hot for the average guy who gets a sore back once in a while.  Instead of clipping on all of that apparatus, I think it's much better to learn how to properly lift a canoe without injury and without bending  the back to do so.  Good technique with practice is weightless, really fast,  and fits in any size canoe.

Double portaging is done by people who like to walk a lot and I have seldom done it, if ever.    Pack your entire trip so you are down to one pack per person or really close to that number.  There is a way to comfortably carry 2 Duluth packs and I'll be adding photos to our website in the near future along with this pack discussion.  

I hate tumplines.  My neck prefers that I pack lighter and smarter. Tumps are for heavy packs.  The guy carrying the canoe should not be stuck with the heaviest pack, too.  Make somebody else carry that one.

The packs that I prefer for gear are the ones we sell.  If I didn't like them, we wouldn't sell them.  You won't find a Knupack in our store anymore.  We use Quetico-Superior packs which are a Duluth-style pack with better modifications that any Granite Gear pack ever has had built in.  Our packs have waterproof bottoms, a map case on the cover and nylon sewn/riveted straps with padding.  The number one seller is a 3.5 pack with a 3.5 " gusseted  sidewall  (allows you to put in more gear- primarily used for personal gear or as a smaller equipment pack).  I'll also have this information on our site as well with photos showing some of the of the different gussets and modifications.  All the packs will be the Duluth-style however with no frames anywhere.

Hope this preliminary info helps.  I'm actually going to use much of what I wrote in those new  pages but I'll add lots of photos as well.  Let me know how your canoe arrives.  We're waiting to see if the crate is going to work out OK.

Joe

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